#ChrisWatts #ShanannWatts #NicholKessinger #TrueCrime OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM.
WHAT DID THE TALK CONSIST OF?
BASICALLY - JUST TO - ABOUT HOW AT FIRST IT WAS MORE LIKE THE SELLING THE HOUSE TYPE OF THING.
OR NOT GOING TO ASPEN OR TRYING TO MAYBE GO AT A DIFFERENT TIME AND THEN IT JUST SWITCHED ALL TO THE, “I DON’T FEEL LIKE I’M IN LOVE WITH YOU ANYMORE AND WE’RE NOT COMPATIBLE.”
WENT TO THAT.
AND THAT’S WHEN IT GOT TO THE HEATED PART OF IT.
OKAY. DID SHE EVER SAY AT SOME POINT “GET OFF OF ME” OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
AT THE END. YEAH.
THAT WHEN SHE SAID “I DON’T WANT YOU TO”— IT FELT LIKE—CAUSE WHERE I WAS SHE DIDN’T WANT ME TO LIKE SIT DOWN OR HURT THE BABY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST KINDA—
DID SHE ACCUSE YOU OF CHEATING AT THAT POINT?
HMM MMN. SO WHAT’D SHE SAY?
SHE’S LIKE “I KNEW THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE. I KNEW THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE.”
AND I JUST-I-I-I DIDN’T COME OUT AND SAY THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY ELSE BUT SHE OBVIOUSLY ALREADY KNEW.
AND YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT WAS WHAT? DID YOU SAY, “NO, THERE’S NOT” DID YOU DENY IT?
I BELIEVE I JUST DENIED BUT I MEAN AT THAT POINT…
BECAUSE I’D ALWAYS…BECAUSE WHEN SHE’D ACCUSE ME AT THE BEAC THERE WAS A LOT OF “THERE’S NOBODY ELSE. THERE’S NOBODY ELSE.” YOU KNOW…
OR LIKE WHEN WE GOT BACK HOME SHE ALWAYS SAID LIKE “THERE’S GOTTA BE SOMEBODY ELSE” BECAUSE LIKE SHE’D ALWAYS TALK TO HER FRIENDS LIKE CRISTINA OR SOMEBODY ON TEXT MESSAGING AND THEY’D ALWAYS SAY “THERE’S GOTTA BE SOMEBODY ELSE” IF HE’S NOT WANTING TO SLEEP WITH YOU LIKE “HE’S GETTING IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.”
AND THERE’S NOWHERE ELSE—SHE COULDN’T REALLY SAY I WOULD GET IT ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE I WOULD USE LIKE THOSE ANADARKO GIFT CARDS — SO IT’S JUST LIKE YOU KNOW—JUST ME GETTING DISTANT. BUT SHE KNEW.
THAT’S MAINLY THE REASON WHY I TALKED TO HER BECAUSE I KNEW LIKE AFTER THAT NIGHT I JUST FELT GUILTY, MORE GUILTY THAN EVER BEFORE.
YEAH. UM, AND THEN IT SEEMS TO ME—SORRY, I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS HERE. SO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT TODAY KIND OF OPENLY.
UM AND THAT’S WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU IS TO JUST KIND OF SAY, “YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT SOUNDS BAD” OR “I KNOW THIS” OR “I FEEL THIS WAY” BUT PHYSICALLY, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
UM SO IF YOU COULD JUST TELL US THAT. IT SEEMS THEN THAT IT WOULD’VE BEEN A PRETTY QUICK TRANSITION TWO PEOPLE TALKING TO THIS. YEAH.
RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED?
YEAH IT WAS LIKE—I DON’T WANNA—I’M TRYING TO THINK OF THE LAST THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT IT WAS LIKE… I ??? LOVE—LOVE YOU ANYMORE. AND SHE WAS LIKE, “YOU’RE NEVER GONNA SEE THE KIDS” - OH - THAT WAS IT.
THAT’S PERFECT CHRIS. THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. OKAY? AND I KNOW IT’S HARD TO WALK THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
BUT THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. SO THEN, AS SOON AS SHE STARTING TALKING LIKE THAT THEN IT WAS ON. OKAY.
BUT IT WAS YOU SAYING THAT YOU DIDN’T LOVE HER? IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.
AND HER SAYING YOU’RE NEVER GONNA SEE THE KIDS? OKAY. I CAN IMAGINE HOW THAT MADE YOU FEEL. I’M SORRY.
IT DIDN’T—IT DIDN’T WARRANT WHAT I DID. YEAH.
AND THE FACT THAT SHE DIDN’T SCRATCH AT YA OR ANYTHING IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS SO POWERFUL?
I DON’T THINK IT—I MEAN—IT DIDN’T FEEL LIKE—I’VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE—PUT MY HANDS AROUND ANYBODY BEFORE SO I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT KIND OF FORCE I WAS PUTTING ON HER NECK.
OKAY. LIKE I SAID 2 TO 4 MINUTES I DON’T KNOW IF THAT WAS 2 TO 4 MINUTES.
DID YOU COVER HER FACE AT ALL DURING THAT TIME?
BOTH HANDS ON THE NECK? OKAY.
AND SO IF IT’S DONE RIGHT THAT CAN BE A MATTER OF SECONDS BEFORE SOMEONE ON THEIR CAROTID [ARTERY] LOSING OXYGEN TO THEIR BRAIN AND IS OUT, RIGHT?
DID IT SEEM LIKE IT WAS THAT QUICK OR? OKAY? MAYBE A MINUTE? MAYBE TWO? OKAY.
SCREAMING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DID YOU SEE EYES GO BLOODSHOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? [NEGATIVE.] OKAY.
AND YOU KEPT TALKING ABOUT THE MASCARA. DID YOU SEE MASCARA ON HER FACE?
IT LOOK LIKE—IT WAS LIKE—THAT’S WHY I ATTRIBUTED IT TO.
WAS IT—WAS SHE CRYING? IS THAT WHY?
AT WHAT POINT DID SHE START CRYING?
WHEN I TALKED ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP NOT BEING COMPATIBLE. WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT I WAS WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, THAT’S WHERE I THINK SHE STARTED CRYING.
THAT WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS, MASCARA. HMM MMN. WAS IT? I DON’T KNOW. I DON’T KNOW.
WAS THERE A PILLOW OR SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ASK ABOUT?
YEAH SO WAS THERE EVER AT ANY TIME A PILLOW OR A SHEET INVOLVED ON THE FACE SPECIFICALLY? NO?
NOT LIKE THE SHEET WRAPPED AORUND THE [KNOCK KNOCK] TO HELP GET DOWNSTAIRS. THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
THE ONE THAT WAS AT THE SITE? OKAY.
AND THEN THE OTHER SHEETS THEY WERE IN THE TRASH. AT WHAT POINT DID YOU PUT THOSE IN THERE?
I THINK THAT WAS—OBVIOUSLY AFTER I WAS IN THE HOUSE. YEAH.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
I THINK PROBABLY LIKE—I’M NOT SURE LIKE WHAT HAPPENS—THIS IS HARD TO TALK ABOUT LIKE—YEAH-WHEN YOU STRANGLE SOMEBODY—SOMETIMES LIKE I GUESS THEY USE THE BATHROOM?
SO IT THINK THAT’S LIKE ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY THAT HAD HAPPENED. OH OKAY.
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